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Vampire Lord Perks

Here's a list of the Vampire Lord perks: link. It doesn't show the whole tree diagram, but that may not be important like it is with other perks. From what I've read in other previews it sounds like these perks are unlocked automatically as you kill, not by gaining levels and manually selecting the perks you want. 76.181.65.128 04:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

If you join the Dawnguard, you eventually could still be a vampire lord, and they won't mind. Plus, Dawnguard gets more trainers, and crossbows and trolls. However, staying with them means you forfeit the vampire equipment and benefits. If you are RPing, I think the choice should be clear. Added looting for werewolves, Updated the 1st person anims 1st/3rd person sheath animations are not in sync If you sheath in one view it will not change in the other view and may glitch out the drawing/attack anims Werewolves will remember your old race. Mod manager download. Manual download. Preview file contents.

Good link, and that is correct, perks are unlocked as you kill.--JIGSAW 4 11:57, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Those abilities are amazing, these better be real and the vampires we original had were..disappointing, pity these can only be accessed in a form where you get attacked by everyone. Does anyone know if the reversed feeding system (getting weaker when you feed) is going to be reversed so you get stronger when you feed? Jigsaw mention perks with each kill so that is good at least. Mr.Scryer. 19:55, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Corpse curse?

There is an ability named 'summon gargoyle' which obviously summons a gargoyle but how come it says 'Corpse curse' summons a gargoyle too? is this correct? i read somewhere that it paralyses enemies.--JIGSAW 4 14:34, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

It's mostly speculative at this point, but I changed the wording for some of them. The Silencer has spoken^Talk 15:10, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Vampire Grip

In an E3 interview with Todd Howard, there was some new footage showing a vampire lord in action. When releasing the Vampire Grip, the affected NPC would be thrown back, similar to how objects get thrown when releasing them from Telekinesis. Would this be worth putting in the description next to the spell? — Unsigned comment by Kolensk (talk • contribs) at 04:34 on 10 June 2012

No, these are the descriptions of the perks that are to appear on the perk tree, not a description of what the perk does. The Silencer speaks^Talk 03:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'm kind of new at this, so I wasn't sure.--Kolensk 05:17, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

First Person or third?

Forgive me if this is already an answered or known topic but does transforming into a vampire lord allow one to remain in the first person? Or is it just like lycanthropy, where you are forced into third person view? Mr.Scryer. 217.137.157.197 23:08, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

From the looks of it, forced third person. --JIGSAW 4 17:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

But nobody knows yet. Vely 17:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

True, no one knows yet except the betas, but hopefully it will allow first person view, nothing wrong with a third person view but I find it better the other way. Mr.Scryer. 19:32, 12 June 2012

Well, the werewolf is forced third person so the vampire lord is more than likely to be forced third person aswell.--JIGSAW 4 14:41, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

In one article it said that you are forced into 3rd person view, like werewolves. RIM 18:17, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Do you know what this article was or the link to it? Mr.Scryer.217.137.157.197 01:20, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

This wasn't the article I read it from but this [one] confirms it too. RIM 12:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Rim, very interesting, though I would have preferred an option to play in the first person view, though coping with third person is easy as I do not dislike it. Mr.Scryer.

No problem, maybe Bethesda will release a patch after a few weeks if enough people want first person? RIM 12:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

The majority of players do indeed play in the first person. In a way, being forced into third person view allows players to have a different experience but the option to choose would be nice. We will just have to wait and see and speaking of, these damn weeks waiting for Dawnguard is going painfully slower than usual. 217.137.157.197 12:52, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I've had exams for the last 2 weeks so it was fine for me :). Now it's only 11 days though so it isn't too bad. I personally prefer 3rd person for exploring but 1st person for in cities and houses. RIM 13:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Vampire Lord Appearance

Its a little late for this, since i only heard about dawnguard a few days ago after the big release, but while the vampire lord may look cool, it bears high resemblance to Underworld's hybrid vampire/werewolf, wings/scythe arms on back, grey skin, really wierd features like stretched skin and some bits of skin having ripples etc, but i think thats a ltitle too far, vampires may be different looking in skyrim/elders scrolls lore but i dont think they should be so different looking, is the appearance/model final? and because of the things on the back would that mean they can fly? — Unsigned comment by 124.181.2.109 (talk) at 20:05 on 12 June 2012

Hmm, I know what you mean, but there are quite a few differences regardless. The features of the face are much different, the wings are quite a bit smaller and it dosent have all those weird membrane thingys on his arms. And im about 193% certain that this is a final model, and no, they can't fly, just hover a little way off the ground. Vos 06:58, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with its appearance and I don't think it is copying markus because before underworld there was Bram stoker's Dracula, which had Dracula assume a demonic bat-like appearance in his true form (its a brief scene) and Van Helsing's Dracula had a demonic bat form as well, besides, markus did not have hair at all in hybrid form and his ears were not like that. It does indeed looks very good and cool, it is also a nice change. Vampires all have different vamp faces which usually is a distortion of the face and different eye colors but this is something new and refreshing and maybe it could mean that these vampires are either more powerful or are closer to the source than the others (just a theory)and as for flying, not sure if it is true but someone said you can glide for awhile by pressing LB. I would most certainly rather this than the near powerless/useless original vampires in skyrim. 217.137.157.197 01:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Whether intentional or not, the resemblance between Marcus in his hybrid form and the Vampire Lords here is extremely uncanny. The only differences I see are the wing shape, the ears not being flattened to the head like Marcus', and the Vampire Lord apparently having horns instead of hair. It doesn't bother me though, especially since vampires are supposed to have terrifying appearances anyway. Lord Nordeck 03:12, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Indeed there are similarities but it is sad that people have to always compare these type of forms to Markus all the time, vampires are connected to bats in some lore and fiction and therefore people have had vampires become demonic bat-like creatures, so Markus was not first and won't be the last. Crispin Grimes, Dracula in BS and VH all had winged bat-like forms and these three existed before Markus. The vampire does not have

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